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he's more interested in that than i think than getting the deficits under control. >> one thing i will say four years ago before his first inauguration, he went to the waup editorial meeting and he talked a good game. he knows you need to put this country on a sustainable path not just for the economy but also just for dealing with our lock-term debt and american competitiveness. does he use his leverage like clinton did with welfare reform to try to come up with an acceptable solution on this key issue because we're confronting the debt, the republicans in congress are focused on it. it's going to be an area where he will have some maneuverability in the next two years. >> does he have that leverage? on the one hand he's got a republican base that says give us those big entitlement changes or we won't give you anything but he's got a democratic party that's already going to think ahead to the midterm elections. you have new voices. senator elizabeth warren of massachusetts said i will not cut medicare. >> and chuck schumer said today that the senate would come up with its own budget.
he's more interested in that than i think than getting the deficits under control. >> one thing i will say four years ago before his first inauguration, he went to the waup editorial meeting and he talked a good game. he knows you need to put this country on a sustainable path not just for the economy but also just for dealing with our lock-term debt and american competitiveness. does he use his leverage like clinton did with welfare reform to try to come up with an acceptable solution on...
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we cannot afford a $4 billion a day deficit and trillion dollar plus deficits every single year. we just cannot afford it. so it requires thoughtfulness and it requires that we are going to have a plan to work through this. i think that that's where we as republicans are headed. >> congresswoman marsha blackburn, thank you for taking the time to talk to us. michael, let me get back to you in this meeting that speaker boehner is going to be having and convince that he's going to have to do to conservative members of his party. how tough a sell job? >> i think it's tough. one reason it's tough, i was struck by the congresswoman's comments. i think there is fundamental disagreement about what it would mean not to just have a clean raising of the debt ceiling. so, in other words, if i heard the congresswoman correctly, i think she was reflecting a sense among some people that you could shut down the government, stop paying some bills, pay other bills, pay interest on the debt, for instance, and we could kind of get through it that way. i think a lot of -- a lot of other republicans,
we cannot afford a $4 billion a day deficit and trillion dollar plus deficits every single year. we just cannot afford it. so it requires thoughtfulness and it requires that we are going to have a plan to work through this. i think that that's where we as republicans are headed. >> congresswoman marsha blackburn, thank you for taking the time to talk to us. michael, let me get back to you in this meeting that speaker boehner is going to be having and convince that he's going to have to do...
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he promised to pay down the deficit at least half in his first term. the first two years of his first term he had a democratic congress house and senate. he could have done anything he wanted. instead he put through an $800 billion stimulus bill and a $1.7 trillion obama care. if he wasn't going to address it then, when is he going to address it? he is essentially holding congress hostage right now and the american people with these scare tactics. >> okay, newt gingrich addressed this whole issue on "cbs this morning" and i'll read you what he said. "it isn't a smart fight for congressional republicans to pick, because in the end, it's a threat they can't sustain. no one is going to default, no one will allow the united states to not pay its bills, no one is going to accept the economic costs. it rallies the entire business community to the president's side." so even newt gingrich says this isn't a wise fight to pick. you may feel strongly about spending cuts but this isn't the right time to fight. >> when is the right time? when is the right time? bec
he promised to pay down the deficit at least half in his first term. the first two years of his first term he had a democratic congress house and senate. he could have done anything he wanted. instead he put through an $800 billion stimulus bill and a $1.7 trillion obama care. if he wasn't going to address it then, when is he going to address it? he is essentially holding congress hostage right now and the american people with these scare tactics. >> okay, newt gingrich addressed this...
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in the abbe sense of medium term deficit reduction plan consistent with sustaining the economic recovery and restoring confidence in the long run, sustainability of the u.s. publicbe finances the current negative outlook on triple-a rating is likely to be resolved with a downgrade later this year. even if another debt ceiling crisis is averted. steve? >> of course it is. we are added to the debt at unprecedented pace. of course, the agencies that exist to provide ratings on our debt are going to tell us that we will be downgraded. you have to have a discussion in the broader context. this is why the things are different when you talk about $17 billion in this particular mulvaney amendment. it is not a ton of number. in the context of $1.2 trillion debt. but you to have the discussions about the $17 billion. it's not out of line to suggest that a 1.6%be off-set is reasonable. >> bret: i will say one thing aboutbe the debt ceiling debate quickly. president obama yesterday and then jay carney back in 2011 two different takes but the same message. >> congressional republicans refuse to pay a
in the abbe sense of medium term deficit reduction plan consistent with sustaining the economic recovery and restoring confidence in the long run, sustainability of the u.s. publicbe finances the current negative outlook on triple-a rating is likely to be resolved with a downgrade later this year. even if another debt ceiling crisis is averted. steve? >> of course it is. we are added to the debt at unprecedented pace. of course, the agencies that exist to provide ratings on our debt are...
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you're going to need more revenues as well as more cuts to get the deficit down. and i've talked to leader reid. i've talked to budget chair murray. we're going to do a budget this year. and it's going to have revenues in it. and our republican colleagues better get used to that fact. >> senator cruz? >> david, i'll mention there was an area of substantial agreement with what chuck just said. he said we should never, ever compromise the full faith and credit of the united states. i agree. and in fact, there is a bill that i am co-sponsoring, the full faith and credit act, which provides that, regardless of what happens to the debt ceiling, the united states will always, always, always meet its debt. we will never default on its debt. that was introduced in 2010. it didn't pass because harry reid and president obama didn't want it to pass. they wanted to raise the specter of a default to use. so, chuck, you and i could make news right now on national television, would you agree to support the full faith and credit act and take the possibility of a default off the t
you're going to need more revenues as well as more cuts to get the deficit down. and i've talked to leader reid. i've talked to budget chair murray. we're going to do a budget this year. and it's going to have revenues in it. and our republican colleagues better get used to that fact. >> senator cruz? >> david, i'll mention there was an area of substantial agreement with what chuck just said. he said we should never, ever compromise the full faith and credit of the united states. i...
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we didn't have a deficit and debt crisis the way we do right now. let's be fair about the facts. we are in a debt crisis. however, when something like this happens, it's an exception to the rule. these people are hurting. they need the help of the federal government, and that's what we're going to deliver today. the bottom line is we're going to move forward and get this done. >> you know, i have been blessed to get to know some of the really good people up in your borough like teddy atlas and your borough president. they're doing great work. tell us how bad it is. we're looking at pictures of the people under water during the flood. have just been devastated. i saw some of that stuff on your own island of staten island a couple weeks ago, it was really rough. >> it's horrendous. this is a war zone. let me be clear, don't forget about -- you see homes crushed. you see people's personal belongings wiped out to sea, but there's also emotional scars that you cannot see. just this past weekend i had a mother tell me her children are deathly afraid when it rains because they think the
we didn't have a deficit and debt crisis the way we do right now. let's be fair about the facts. we are in a debt crisis. however, when something like this happens, it's an exception to the rule. these people are hurting. they need the help of the federal government, and that's what we're going to deliver today. the bottom line is we're going to move forward and get this done. >> you know, i have been blessed to get to know some of the really good people up in your borough like teddy...
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make the hard choices to reduce the cost of healthcare and size of the deficit. we reject that they must choose between caring that built the country. >> like every president since fdr, mr. obama started his day early, with a prayer service at st. john's church. before departing the white house for the longest motorcades known to man for the rise to the capital. a star-studded affair. where else do you see paul ryan mingling with jay-z and beyonce who belted out the national anthem. >> the ceremony was over there was a stream of pomp and circumstance waiting. >> from signing papers to officially nominate the new cabinet to lunch with congressional leaders. then, of course, the parade. the first family could make the way back to the white house in that grand bulletproof review stand. yet all of that could wait because leaving the west front of the capitol, the president went off script to take in the vista of the national mall. mr. obama seemed to be taking in the moment. overheard saying he would never quite see this view again. as the president is set to sell th
make the hard choices to reduce the cost of healthcare and size of the deficit. we reject that they must choose between caring that built the country. >> like every president since fdr, mr. obama started his day early, with a prayer service at st. john's church. before departing the white house for the longest motorcades known to man for the rise to the capital. a star-studded affair. where else do you see paul ryan mingling with jay-z and beyonce who belted out the national anthem....
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when you look at the agenda now, there's the economy, the deficit, gun control, immigration. what should the president do first to show republicans he's not looking for revenge or looking to pick fights? >> i would say the budget. to make an honest attempt on both sides to try to reduce spending or reduce the growth in spending. that to me is the one place where there is enough on the table that both sides can make progress if they want to. you get into gun control, i basically support the president's program, but he's not going to get very much support at all among republicans for that. that's a good political point for him, but i don't see it going anywhere. as far as the illegal immigration or making it legal or whatever, reform, i would say there's an opportunity, people like marco rubio, for instance, and others, and also you have the chamber of commerce, you have some republican vested interest. i would say the budget and immigration are the two areas, spending and immigration. >> can he get through some simple things on gun control, if not a ban on assault weapons. tha
when you look at the agenda now, there's the economy, the deficit, gun control, immigration. what should the president do first to show republicans he's not looking for revenge or looking to pick fights? >> i would say the budget. to make an honest attempt on both sides to try to reduce spending or reduce the growth in spending. that to me is the one place where there is enough on the table that both sides can make progress if they want to. you get into gun control, i basically support...
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it will reduce the deficit. obama care has brought the number of uninsured americans to the lowest level since 2008. however, the law would be fully implemented until 2014. it would put pressure on all insurers to lower their premiums in order to compete. it would also provide immediate relief to small businesses and the federal government and all parts of the economy. for example, former defense secretary robert gates has warned the rising -- he has warned of rising military costs for years. >> sharply rising health care costs are consuming an ever-larger share of this department. growing from 19 billion 234 in . >> military health care costs have gone up 300% in the past decade. 2012 was the first year since 1995 military personnel saw an increase in health care premiums. now, there are two things republicans love. the military and reducing the deficit. republican should be thrilled with the public option. how can you make a hundred billion dollar mistake? who's doing the math? will it save or won't it save? l
it will reduce the deficit. obama care has brought the number of uninsured americans to the lowest level since 2008. however, the law would be fully implemented until 2014. it would put pressure on all insurers to lower their premiums in order to compete. it would also provide immediate relief to small businesses and the federal government and all parts of the economy. for example, former defense secretary robert gates has warned the rising -- he has warned of rising military costs for years....
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action by the government and when you look at the biggest issue that we face of this era, it's the deficit. it's the trillion dollars of debt and the president didn't really talk about that. he talked about, we're not a nation of takers but that we've become a nation of debtors. >> the president clearly is a smart man, a smart politician. he's also a writer, a thoughtful person. if that is the speech, if the speech as ari described, why would he decide to give that speech? what's the political goal? >> this is the last time he's getting sworn in as president of the united states. that's why. i think it's martin luther king day. martin luther king was courageous. martin made this point earlier that perhaps the president had some sense of guilt about not doing gun control and that it took newtown to get him to do that and so this is the speech you get to give once and i think there may have been a sense he wanted to be aggressive because he could and because he had to set out what he believes he said, i'm not going to get all of it, don't let the perfect -- nothing can be perfect. but i do b
action by the government and when you look at the biggest issue that we face of this era, it's the deficit. it's the trillion dollars of debt and the president didn't really talk about that. he talked about, we're not a nation of takers but that we've become a nation of debtors. >> the president clearly is a smart man, a smart politician. he's also a writer, a thoughtful person. if that is the speech, if the speech as ari described, why would he decide to give that speech? what's the...
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and ironically, would probably increase our deficit. so to even entertain the idea of this happening, of the united states of america not paying its bills is irresponsible. it's absurd. >> the country defaults on its debt, republicans will take the blame for the damage, as president obama pointed out, the country is required by law to pay for what congress spends. >> congress authorizes spending. they order me to spend. they tell me you need to fund our defense department at such and such a level. you need to send out social security checks. you need to make sure that your paying to care for our veterans. they lay all this out for me. and because they have the spending power. and so i am required by law to go ahead and pay these bills. >> many republicans are willing to just let it all burn to the ground. politico reported more and morehouse republicans are planning to damage the economy. gop officials said more than half of their members are prepared to allow default unless president obama agrees to dramatic cuts. he has repeatedly sai
and ironically, would probably increase our deficit. so to even entertain the idea of this happening, of the united states of america not paying its bills is irresponsible. it's absurd. >> the country defaults on its debt, republicans will take the blame for the damage, as president obama pointed out, the country is required by law to pay for what congress spends. >> congress authorizes spending. they order me to spend. they tell me you need to fund our defense department at such...
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would surplus at sometimes but ordinarily deficits were small and manageable. what's different today we're not necessarily talking about funding or not borrowing for disaster, we're borrowing for everything else and that puts us in this new and frankly uncomfortable position. if we had taken care of our underlying financial and fiscal needs and paid for the operation of this government without borrowing huge sums of money we wouldn't have to have this conversation. we've undermined our own ability for our own people. imagine the united states of america being in the circumstance it is today we have to ask other countries to lend us money so we can take care of our own. that's an embarrassment to me. i'm not happy to be in this position. it's not because of what happened in sandy, it's because of what happened before we got to sandy. >> congressman mick mulvaney nice to talk to you. makes an excellent point at the same time. if you are a person affected by sandy many folks in our state of new jersey you hear that, this is closing the barn door after the horse ha
would surplus at sometimes but ordinarily deficits were small and manageable. what's different today we're not necessarily talking about funding or not borrowing for disaster, we're borrowing for everything else and that puts us in this new and frankly uncomfortable position. if we had taken care of our underlying financial and fiscal needs and paid for the operation of this government without borrowing huge sums of money we wouldn't have to have this conversation. we've undermined our own...
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you will need more revenues as well as more cuts to get the deficit down. we're going to do a budget this year and it will have revenues in it and our republican colleagues better get used to that fact. martha: promise, promises right? they will do a budget this year. we haven't seen one in how long? stuart varney the anchor of "varney & company". how many years has it been now? >> i believe it is 3 1/2 years. we go through the tax debate. we thought we got higher taxes on the rich and it was over, not so. senator schumer and fellow democrats are proposing yet higher taxes on the rich, more taxes on oil and gas companies and taxes on profits that american corporations makeover seas. so that is three big areas where taxes are going to go up. all of this we are told is going to be in the new budget which the senate has to pass in about a three-month period. so, here they come, higher taxes. martha: yeah. i mean, stuart, as you point out the argument that is being waged now about really tax rerecall follow was something that conservatives offered the first tim
you will need more revenues as well as more cuts to get the deficit down. we're going to do a budget this year and it will have revenues in it and our republican colleagues better get used to that fact. martha: promise, promises right? they will do a budget this year. we haven't seen one in how long? stuart varney the anchor of "varney & company". how many years has it been now? >> i believe it is 3 1/2 years. we go through the tax debate. we thought we got higher taxes on...
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>> look, at the end of the day, when we deal with the sequester, when we deal with deficit reduction, it has to be in a balance way. we have always said we are willing to support spending cuts. we put our money where our mouth is with the debt ceiling last summer. like i said, before, ed, many of us on the democratic side voted for $1.2 trillion in spending cuts with no revenue, no balance and got a debt ceiling increase. president obama made it very clear we are not negotiating over the debt ceiling again because we have to pay our bills. we have to give certainty to our economy and we have to focus on deficit reduction in a balanced way so we can protect the middle class and working families. >> doesn't this give the progressive movement an opportunity in the next 90 days to really send the message to congress, leave the big three alone? go get your money somewhere else? i mean, it would seem to me that the republicans are going to go that have in the next 90 days, make the case that it's the entitlements that are really the problem in all of this. so this campaign is going to conti
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it's too big, the deficit to my commanding gauges the economy. melissa: they were you are. don't move. i want to talk to you about what kneele just brought up. the debt ceiling debacle and those comments from chuck schumer. all of that after the break. the staggering death toll in the algerian hostage crisis keeps rising. reports say more than 80 people were killed including three americans. now some question why the algerian government acted the way it did. we have details on the latest developments. more "money" coming up. don't go away. look, if you have copd like me, you know it can be hard to breathe, and how that feels. copd includes chronic bronchitis and emphysema. spiriva helps control my copd symptoms by keeping my airways open for 24 hours. plus, it reduces copd flare-ups. spiriva is the only once-daily inhaled copd maintenance treatment that does both. spiriva handihaler tiotropium bromide inhalation powder does not replace fast-acting inhalers for sudden symptoms. tell your doctor if you have kidney problems, glaucoma, trouble urinating, or an enlarged prostate
it's too big, the deficit to my commanding gauges the economy. melissa: they were you are. don't move. i want to talk to you about what kneele just brought up. the debt ceiling debacle and those comments from chuck schumer. all of that after the break. the staggering death toll in the algerian hostage crisis keeps rising. reports say more than 80 people were killed including three americans. now some question why the algerian government acted the way it did. we have details on the latest...
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the deficit isn't the product of spending. the economic down turn has left americans making less money in terms of spending. >> we spend each year more than we brought in. >> spending and revenue. our revenue has decreased and american -- >> i got to go. >> i got to go. >> spending budgets they have gone up under president obama and have held at $3.5 billion each year. >> i got to go. we can continue it another time. >> but it is also economic growth which it self might be a function of taxes and spending. if this economy were growing, you would have a substantially lower budget deficit. gentlemen we will welcome you back another time. >> there is at least one state in the northeast that gets it. natural gas shale and it is pennsylvania and the republican governor tom corebet is about to join us. he picks up support from chuck schumer who didn't get an apology for the anti-israel statements. if we were growing at 5% instead of 2% we would be close to a balanced budget today. i'm kudlow we will be right back. at 1:45, the aflac
the deficit isn't the product of spending. the economic down turn has left americans making less money in terms of spending. >> we spend each year more than we brought in. >> spending and revenue. our revenue has decreased and american -- >> i got to go. >> i got to go. >> spending budgets they have gone up under president obama and have held at $3.5 billion each year. >> i got to go. we can continue it another time. >> but it is also economic growth...
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the consensus is we need 4 trillion dollars to stabilize the debt, deficit. that means we need 1.5 trillion dollars more. the package i authorized to the speaker before the new year would achieve that. we were actually fairly close in terms of arriving at that number. so if the goal is to make sure we're being responsible about the debt and the deficit, it that if the conversation we're having, i am happy to have that conversation. by closing additional loopholes through tax reform, which the speaker has acknowledged can raise money in a sensible way, and by doing some additional cuts, including making sure we are reducing the health care spending, the main driver of the deficit, we can arrive at a package to get this thing done. i am happy to have that conversation. what i will not do is to have that that negotiation with a gun at the head of the american people, the threat that unless we get our way, unless you have medicare or medicaid or otherwise/things that the american people do not believe should be slashed that we will threatened to wreck the entire
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you can't solve the financial deficit until they solve the trust deficit. maybe it's hopeful idealism. but maybe they made a small down payment today. >> i with us also thinking as i was watching the president review the troops, and you heard leon panetta talk about the first lady and jill biden and how much they have done for their troops and their families. but i'm willing thinking coming into this next phase, this is going to be a president that could have some difficult relationships with generals. he has always been concerned about the generals and not being overtaken by them. and he has spoken an awful lot about that as presidents have to make their own decisions, not be led too much by the generals. i think the nomination of chuck hagel is somebody who was a sergeant, whom he believes comes at the pentagon from the view of the bottom of the ladder, not at the top of the ladder. and so i think you're going to have some real issues. >> general stanley mcchrystal wrote about that actually in his new book. he talked about the deficit of trust they had ea
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talking about debt, deficit, government spending, 15, 20 years ago when no one was much focused on it here is a chance to take what you learned on the way up, what you learned on the way down. what you learned in congress before, the governorship and apply it to the debate of our time. >>> piers morgan will have an exclusive interview at 10:00 p.m. eastern on cnn. >>> quint se conrad bain, the d different strokes, has died. only one surviving member, willis. >> such a great show. you think of all of the drama cast members had over the years. >> i don't remember. i don't think i was born then. >> that show was a long time ago. >> amazing. >>> still ahead this morning on "starting point," hottest pregnant sri lankan, hottest indian chick. just a document categories in the "qq" hottest women of the millennium issue. we'll talk about that straight ahead. >>> and the girlfriend of notre dame's linebacker manti te'o died, millions came to his side. it was all a hoax. it wasn't caught and why not? mark greenberg and mark schlerath will join me to talk about that, straight ahead. officeyour b
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. >> reporter: president obama stating very clearly today that he will not negotiate deficit reduction, tax increases and spending cuts attached to the debt ceiling. this of course does follow that bruising battle the year before last, where he did negotiate on the issue, and the u.s. nearly went to the brink of default. he said that congress has to pay the bills that it's already racked up. >> you don't go out to dinner and then, you know, eat all you want and then leave without paying the check. and if you do, you're breaking the law. and congress should think about it the same way that the american people do. you don't -- now, if congress want, to have a debate about maybe we shouldn't go out to dinner next time, maybe we should go to a more modest restaurant, that's fine. that's the debate that we should have. >> reporter: in this press conference that was called last minute in the east room, president obama said he will negotiate a deal on deficit reduction but not, as he put it, quote, with a gun to the head of the american people. as you know, joe, republicans are saying they're
. >> reporter: president obama stating very clearly today that he will not negotiate deficit reduction, tax increases and spending cuts attached to the debt ceiling. this of course does follow that bruising battle the year before last, where he did negotiate on the issue, and the u.s. nearly went to the brink of default. he said that congress has to pay the bills that it's already racked up. >> you don't go out to dinner and then, you know, eat all you want and then leave without...
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and also deal with the trade deficits, but even more importantly, what do we do to create an environment where businesses can grow and we can expand economic development? because this is still a very, very fragile expansion, though it is a expansion from probably the deepest recession we've ever been in wince the depression. a lot of pent-up demand, so i think this debate is centered on the right thing, what do we do to create an environment where businesses can grow. >> if we need and if republicans argue that what needs to be done is to cut the deficit, they need to perhaps go into default, are you okay with that? ivities illustrates well again i think we need to look at that time it through the lens of economy development. anything to slow this expansion down would have very, very serious consequences to all of us. >> let me ask you about your announcement last week. you were going to hire engineers, computer programmers. last year you announced to add 12,000 jobs by 2015. given everything that's going on, how confident are you that you'll still be able to meet that goal? >> well, i t
and also deal with the trade deficits, but even more importantly, what do we do to create an environment where businesses can grow and we can expand economic development? because this is still a very, very fragile expansion, though it is a expansion from probably the deepest recession we've ever been in wince the depression. a lot of pent-up demand, so i think this debate is centered on the right thing, what do we do to create an environment where businesses can grow. >> if we need and if...
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the deficit solving the committee's to read our committees like that effective? simpson-bowles. >> guest: the greatest mistake the president made is not embracing taylor branch tiemann it cannot today. we wouldn't be here today have you taken the simpson-bowles framework although there was a lot that i didn't like i voted to move it so that we would have the debate two years ago, two plus years ago had we had the debate and actually put something on the floor we would have seen something passed. we would have allowed the legislative process we are not allowing the legislative process to work. there's 25 bills that have come out of the house that won't see the light of day and a set for political reasons, not because they don't address problems for the country but so what we still have is people paying politics and how does that impact of the election and how we live while the barn is burning down. .. we have an hour and a half left in our program and we will continue in just a moment. ♪ >> host: senator coburn coming up on our afterwards the program. he's going
the deficit solving the committee's to read our committees like that effective? simpson-bowles. >> guest: the greatest mistake the president made is not embracing taylor branch tiemann it cannot today. we wouldn't be here today have you taken the simpson-bowles framework although there was a lot that i didn't like i voted to move it so that we would have the debate two years ago, two plus years ago had we had the debate and actually put something on the floor we would have seen something...
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he is absolutely prepared to continue to negotiate ways to reduce our budget deficit and that's exactly what we should be doing but we shouldn't be doing it under the threat, the republican threat, of tanking the economy by undermining the full faith and credit of the united states government. we have never done that in the history of this republic and we shouldn't start doing it now. >> all right. congressman van hollen, always a pleasure to speak with you. thank you, sir. >> likewise. >>> the house will vote on the massive hurricane sandy bill and things are heated on the house floor today. >> we are asking, we are pleading and we shouldn't have to beg for money for the northeast to be able to survive. >> but some republicans say they will vote against the bill despite calls from members in their own party to get it done. >>> but first, today's money minute. here's a look at wall street. you see there, the dow down slightly. we'll be right back. [ man ] i've been out there most of my life. you name it...i've hooked it. but there's one... one that's always eluded me. thought i had it i
he is absolutely prepared to continue to negotiate ways to reduce our budget deficit and that's exactly what we should be doing but we shouldn't be doing it under the threat, the republican threat, of tanking the economy by undermining the full faith and credit of the united states government. we have never done that in the history of this republic and we shouldn't start doing it now. >> all right. congressman van hollen, always a pleasure to speak with you. thank you, sir. >>...
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. >> i'm willing to compromise and find common ground over how to reduce the deficit, america cannot afford another debate with this congress about whether or not they should pay the bills they have racked up. what i will not do is to have that negotiation with gun at the head of the people. >> dana: interesting choice of words to describe that. eric, you talked about not wanting the country to lurch from crisis to crisis. most americans would agree and want washington to fix fundamental problems. why do we have to have the debate every three months? >> eric: sure. start with the debt ceiling and how it came about. prior to world war i, everybody was paid. the debt we incurred was paid for through various bonds. world war i to world war ii, fdr got together with the treasury secretary and set let's put a debt ceiling op and they started to borrow money. that amount in 1949 was $45 billion. today, $16.4 trillion. that is 46,400% higher. between 1939 and 1980, we never exceeded $1 trillion in debt. now we push $17 trillion. the problem with the sound bite is president obama was the guy
. >> i'm willing to compromise and find common ground over how to reduce the deficit, america cannot afford another debate with this congress about whether or not they should pay the bills they have racked up. what i will not do is to have that negotiation with gun at the head of the people. >> dana: interesting choice of words to describe that. eric, you talked about not wanting the country to lurch from crisis to crisis. most americans would agree and want washington to fix...
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again, everyone wants deficit reduction. they do not want debt pour on. >> do you believe there is still an appetite to cut spending? this is a walkway that will connect the white house and the reviewing stand and the motorcade is going to the south side of the white house behind the white house, and the back of this building right now and they go to the white house to this walkway just to get to this reviewing stand. you are looking at there and seeing what, robert? it seems like more gamesmanship in both sides with a brief window. >> the economy is better, that is clear. housing is coming back. there is alignment between the business community and the priorities of the executive office. immigration reform. education. corporate tax reform. we need the other things we mentioned, the debt ceiling happened first. otherwise, this is going to be an uncertain year. >> why didn't you get picked if treasury? ing in against jack lew but they need guys like you. >> i am very flattered. fox should start a campaign for me. very flatter
again, everyone wants deficit reduction. they do not want debt pour on. >> do you believe there is still an appetite to cut spending? this is a walkway that will connect the white house and the reviewing stand and the motorcade is going to the south side of the white house behind the white house, and the back of this building right now and they go to the white house to this walkway just to get to this reviewing stand. you are looking at there and seeing what, robert? it seems like more...
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bush was -- >> i thought their one idea, david, was cutting the deficit. >> that's -- they say that's the case, but it really is they want to just talk about spending cuts as if that is going to help the economy. and any mainstream economist now tells you that you may have to do that in some ways for long-term deficit implications but that's not good in the short run. even simpson/bowles say don't cut so fast. >> and just to be clear, it's not at all clear that they actually have coherent plans for anything they're suggesting. they have sort of hand waving spending cuts, entitlement reform without really writing down a specific path to get there. >> incredible. david corn and jared bernstein, gentlemen, thank you so much. stay with us. we'll be right back. what do we want to build next ? that's the question. every day. when you have the most advanced tools, you want to make something with them. something that helps. helps safeguard our shores. helps someone see through a wall of fire. helps those nowhere near the right doctor stand a chance. ... feeling in the extremities ? no. techno
bush was -- >> i thought their one idea, david, was cutting the deficit. >> that's -- they say that's the case, but it really is they want to just talk about spending cuts as if that is going to help the economy. and any mainstream economist now tells you that you may have to do that in some ways for long-term deficit implications but that's not good in the short run. even simpson/bowles say don't cut so fast. >> and just to be clear, it's not at all clear that they actually...
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what is the big vision for america from the republican party other than cutting the deficit? other than tackling debt? i don't think we've heard anything articulated on the level that the president did today and certainly in recent months from the right. and so in that way, you know, much respect to the chairman, we are friends and i respect his opinion, but i have not heard anything from the right that would counter the notion that the party is very much -- >> michael needs -- >> but my point isn't on policy. yeah, we're going to disagree -- the president laid out a collectivist agenda today and that's very clear. sgroo a collectivist agenda. >> yeah, where he said the individual can't succeed without the collective and that's just not true in the view of a lot of republicans. but that's not my point. my point was speaking to what howard was raising was that, you know, this broad brush that republicans are right now with their head in their soup lamenting the moment and i'm saying that's not necessarily true across the board. >> collectivist, where would it fit between maois
what is the big vision for america from the republican party other than cutting the deficit? other than tackling debt? i don't think we've heard anything articulated on the level that the president did today and certainly in recent months from the right. and so in that way, you know, much respect to the chairman, we are friends and i respect his opinion, but i have not heard anything from the right that would counter the notion that the party is very much -- >> michael needs -- >>...
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or the deficit. but, if we can save one life through action, we can do it. we think we can get the votes in the senate -- >> assault weapons? >> the president put forward a variety of things, assault weapons and high capacity magazines an universal background checks and mental health. school safety. so, we think there is support for a lot of these things and we'll push as hard as we can. >> chris: finally, less and a minute left, most of obamacare goes into effect at the end of this year, beginning of next year. states are having problems, already, putting the exchanges into effect and insurance companies an employers are having problems. is there any chance the president will say, let's slow down and delay the january 1st, 2014 kick-in of a lot of the stuff and allow people more time to implement it? >> no. no, i think -- no. but hhsr, health department is working with employers and states to be flexible and making sure we work with them very closely. >> chris: january 1st, 2014? >> no, i think that -- the implementation of health care, even though it is a
or the deficit. but, if we can save one life through action, we can do it. we think we can get the votes in the senate -- >> assault weapons? >> the president put forward a variety of things, assault weapons and high capacity magazines an universal background checks and mental health. school safety. so, we think there is support for a lot of these things and we'll push as hard as we can. >> chris: finally, less and a minute left, most of obamacare goes into effect at the end...
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fixing the budget deficit, the federal budget was the most important to 13%. only 5% thought tax reform was important. and you may be looking at this poll and thinking, well, what happened to the war in afghanistan? well, there it is, it comes in at 4%, health care at 5% ending the war in afghanistan the most important priority for only 4% of the american people. but we should not ever forget that as we sit here today approximately 60,000 americans are fighting in afghanistan. the president is drawing those troops down but we have a long way to go yet in that war that is now more than ten years old. john dickerson our cbs news political director, he's down on the national mall, john, you see that 35% by far the largest majority of people in our poll think the president needs to be working on the economy. >> that's still the single most important issue for the president, much further down or much smaller percentage want them work on the deficit. really the deficit and getting the budget picture in order, ending these endless confrontations over the budget will
fixing the budget deficit, the federal budget was the most important to 13%. only 5% thought tax reform was important. and you may be looking at this poll and thinking, well, what happened to the war in afghanistan? well, there it is, it comes in at 4%, health care at 5% ending the war in afghanistan the most important priority for only 4% of the american people. but we should not ever forget that as we sit here today approximately 60,000 americans are fighting in afghanistan. the president is...
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that difference represents a deficit of $1.1 trillion. so you can see we are very close to being at a 60 year high in spending, and very close to being at a 60 year low in revenue. so i would say to those who say we just have a spending problem, i think you got that half right. i think we've also got a revenue problem. that needs to be addressed. let's go to the next slide if we can. the result of these deficits and debt is that we now have a gross debt that is more than 100% of our gross domestic product. you can see right in the middle of that graph, in 2012, the gross debt of the united states has now reached 104%. why does that matter? the best academic research, a book by rogoff of harvard, reinhard, the university of michigan i think she was when she did the study, look at 200 use of economic history. and concluded once you get a gross debt of more than 90% of your gross domestic product, your future economic prospects are dramatically reduced. future economic growth is reduced anywhere from 25 to 33%. so these are not just numbers
that difference represents a deficit of $1.1 trillion. so you can see we are very close to being at a 60 year high in spending, and very close to being at a 60 year low in revenue. so i would say to those who say we just have a spending problem, i think you got that half right. i think we've also got a revenue problem. that needs to be addressed. let's go to the next slide if we can. the result of these deficits and debt is that we now have a gross debt that is more than 100% of our gross...
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governor brown in the state of the states last week said, look, we're finished with the deficit. we're okay. we're in the black, actually. that's what he said. >> well, yes, if you look at the actual numbers behind that, part of eliminating that budget deficit meant pushing off payments towards bond obligation. they took a couple billion off the back end there, and what's interesting, it's easy to claim there's a budget surplus with $6 billion more of the taxpayers money thanks to prop 30, but hidden in the funding means that the governor's now going to back fill pension payments and salaries to stateupon work ores, and that was not part of the promise. >> that's interesting. this prop 30 raised taxes that was in the november election, and it was back dated to january. they are going to bring in an extra $6 million, and mark, you say some of the extra revenue goes towards paying state worker pensions opposed to reinvigorated the health service or the education system; right? >> yes. it also goes towards eliminating a few of the furlough fridays that schwarzenegger posted trying t
governor brown in the state of the states last week said, look, we're finished with the deficit. we're okay. we're in the black, actually. that's what he said. >> well, yes, if you look at the actual numbers behind that, part of eliminating that budget deficit meant pushing off payments towards bond obligation. they took a couple billion off the back end there, and what's interesting, it's easy to claim there's a budget surplus with $6 billion more of the taxpayers money thanks to prop...